the guardian: .
russian intelligence agents hacked a us voting systems manufacturer in the weeks leading up to last year’s presidential election .
russian military intelligence carried out a cyber-attack on at least one us voting software supplier and sent spear-phishing emails to more than a hundred local election officials days before the poll.
Do you know Hillary also tried to influence the Russian election in 2012 using the state department?
I'm pretty sure this is something you just made up. But, for the simplicity of our discussion, let's assume this is completely true.
How does this in anyway make it any less concerning that Russia attempted to influence our election?
Do you think the actions of Hillary justify the actions of Russia? Do you want to live in a world where hostile states try to influence democratic elections?
the guardian: .
russian intelligence agents hacked a us voting systems manufacturer in the weeks leading up to last year’s presidential election .
russian military intelligence carried out a cyber-attack on at least one us voting software supplier and sent spear-phishing emails to more than a hundred local election officials days before the poll.
The difference is that there are actual documented cases of illegals voting (i.e. real evidence of a crime) and anecdotal evidence from people involved in the election process that it was more than a few isolated cases.
Please cite a source showing that "large numbers of votes were cast by illegal immigrants".
Stop arguing over semantics. You posted a snippet of an article that made that claim.
Please cite where in the article it made the claim that "the election machines were hacked"
the guardian: .
russian intelligence agents hacked a us voting systems manufacturer in the weeks leading up to last year’s presidential election .
russian military intelligence carried out a cyber-attack on at least one us voting software supplier and sent spear-phishing emails to more than a hundred local election officials days before the poll.
Simon, I'm finding this a difficult conversation to have with you because you will make statements like "large numbers of votes were cast by illegal immigrants" without a shred of evidence.
But, after multiple reports from numerous intelligence agencies and independent companies, you still refuses to acknowledge that the Russian's sought to influence the election. I'm not sure where this disparity for your standards of evidence is arising.
But please don't shoot the messenger . . . and it'd be nice if you wouldn't strawman him either.
the guardian: .
russian intelligence agents hacked a us voting systems manufacturer in the weeks leading up to last year’s presidential election .
russian military intelligence carried out a cyber-attack on at least one us voting software supplier and sent spear-phishing emails to more than a hundred local election officials days before the poll.
You are clearly trying to claim that the election machines were hacked
No, I did NOT make this claim. Please stop accusing me of saying things that I did not say.
the guardian: .
russian intelligence agents hacked a us voting systems manufacturer in the weeks leading up to last year’s presidential election .
russian military intelligence carried out a cyber-attack on at least one us voting software supplier and sent spear-phishing emails to more than a hundred local election officials days before the poll.
But the story isn't presented as "someone TRIED to hack the election". It's presented as "someone DID hack the election". Huge, huge difference.No, that is NOT how the story is presented. Please read the story instead of attacking it for things it doesn't say.
The story even points out that is NOT a conclusion that should be drawn: . . . does not reach a conclusion about whether it affected the outcome of the election.
the guardian: .
russian intelligence agents hacked a us voting systems manufacturer in the weeks leading up to last year’s presidential election .
russian military intelligence carried out a cyber-attack on at least one us voting software supplier and sent spear-phishing emails to more than a hundred local election officials days before the poll.
NOBODY is saying the election should be nullified. The issue here is that we are finding even more ways in which the Russians attempted to influence the outcome of our election.
The fact that they weren't successful (as far as we know) in no way undermines how disturbing this attack on our democratic system is.
the guardian: .
russian intelligence agents hacked a us voting systems manufacturer in the weeks leading up to last year’s presidential election .
russian military intelligence carried out a cyber-attack on at least one us voting software supplier and sent spear-phishing emails to more than a hundred local election officials days before the poll.
Hacking computer voting devises, they have been doing that since Bush jr first election.
They have?
Can you cite a source?
the guardian: .
russian intelligence agents hacked a us voting systems manufacturer in the weeks leading up to last year’s presidential election .
russian military intelligence carried out a cyber-attack on at least one us voting software supplier and sent spear-phishing emails to more than a hundred local election officials days before the poll.
I don't trust the NSA AT ALL
Nobody cares
the guardian: .
russian intelligence agents hacked a us voting systems manufacturer in the weeks leading up to last year’s presidential election .
russian military intelligence carried out a cyber-attack on at least one us voting software supplier and sent spear-phishing emails to more than a hundred local election officials days before the poll.
The Guardian:
Russian intelligence agents hacked a US voting systems manufacturer in the weeks leading up to last year’s presidential election . . . Russian military intelligence carried out a cyber-attack on at least one US voting software supplier and sent spear-phishing emails to more than a hundred local election officials days before the poll. Although the document does not directly identify the company in question, it contains references to a product made by VR Systems, a Florida-based vendor of electronic voting services and equipment whose products are used in eight states.
There is still a great deal of uncertainty over how successful the Russian operatives were and does not reach a conclusion about whether it affected the outcome of the election. But the suggestion that Russian hackers may gained at least a foothold in electronic voting systems is likely to add even more pressure to special counsel and congressional investigations.
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/jun/05/russia-us-election-hack-voting-system-nsa-report
3 male passengers then get out and start stabbing / shooting people according to early reports.. but it could have been anyone for any reason, who knows, possibly jehovahs witnesses or amish.. maybe we'll never know the reason but i'm sure there will be people praying for those involved and hashtags.. thus solving the problem once and for all.. just "life in a big city" according to the muslim mayor of london, sadiq khan..
If you find this statement absurd:
Praying five times a day has nothing to do with Islam!
Then you should find this statement equally absurd:
Jihad has nothing to do with Islam!
